The Alabama State University Honey Beez have challenged traditional assumptions about what a collegiate dancer is “supposed” to look like. But when a stadium announcer directed an Ozempic joke at the plus-size dance team, it raised a much larger question:

How do we talk about weight, fitness and health without humiliating people because of their bodies?

The Thought Brothers take on that question in a candid conversation about fat-shaming, body image, women’s experiences, men’s experiences, physical fitness, health and personal responsibility.

Gary Johnson also shares experiences from when he was approximately 70 pounds heavier—including being tapped on the stomach during a professional meeting and jokingly asked when his “baby” was due, as well as the very different experience of struggling to fasten an airplane seatbelt.

One involved someone else’s judgment. The other forced personal reflection.

Those aren’t the same thing.

And neither tells us everything about someone’s health.

A larger person can possess significant physical fitness. A thinner person isn’t automatically healthy. And being physically fit doesn’t necessarily mean someone has no underlying health concerns.

Most importantly, a person’s weight doesn’t determine his or her human value.

Women join the Thought Brothers for this conversation because a discussion involving women’s bodies shouldn’t happen without women having a meaningful voice in it.

Can we encourage healthier lives without shaming people? Can body acceptance and personal accountability coexist? And are men and women treated differently when they’re overweight?

It’s time to talk about The Weight of Our Words.